I think a basketball managers role is to be the person that provide an "interface" between Coaching Directors and Management Committees.

Just like Football Manager in Footy terms. A good Basketball Manager would be someone that has done the Coaching Director role or been a div 1 coach and then looking to move into something different, a "higher" level up if you like.

The good thing with this person is it enables clubs having a number of Coaching Directors Boys/Girls or Juniors/Seniors to still work together and seperates the administration from the running of "basketball operations (coaching)"

Ingognito,
I take your meaning...but the bottom line is that this postion will attract the most K from a Club....It can the position that coordinate or desmimate...
Are JCDs positions redundant?

I dont think they will cost much if at all. I think its the perfect position for someone to oversee JCDs. JCDs are very much a hands on role. Basketball Managers are not. This means less time commitment. The JCD role is almost a part time job whereas the Basketball Manager role is more of a hobby. JCDs will work with Coaches and players whereas Basketball Managers work with the JCDs and not have to be out there on court and dealing with the coaches.

"It can the position that coordinate or desmimate..." not sure what u mean here.

If SA Basketball is looking to move forward then the Operation Manager position is vital. Clubs need somebody full-time emlpoyed to get things going. Domestic Competitions/Aussie Hoops/JCD/plus admin for the clubs is what each and every club needs. They need to be developing competitions and programs which can produce income streams for the club to make their position viable.

If BASA wanted to they could split the 150K that is curretnly used on the Development Officers between the clubs on a $1 for $1 for each club. That is for each dollar a club puts to the position BASA matches up to $15k. This person reports to Danni O'Brien and has a prouctivity element to the money coming in. So that clubs don't use this money on an import. Then each club has somebody, but they are centrally coordinated so as to not get in each others way. The rest of the wage can be generated from programs or sponsorship, up to each club.

Then get these people to run the mini ball at their home stadium for the club, or other compeititons such as domestic comps.

Any other opinions

Big A agree with you such a job description can allow the JCDs to concentrate on the coaching issues.

Don't think hobby justifies the commitment though -Incognito.

My desimate comment is that the roles would have to be clearly defined so that a Club doesnt have 3 positions working on the same issue, where conflict may arise.

Do JCDs become coordinators?
How much are Clubs offering Operations Managers?

Yea I seeing the role as more of a Management role thus the Hobby. IE: Putting people in positions to do the work, measuring those people and been the communications conduit between the Executive and the various people appointed.

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You would need to get alot of sponsorship and realistically, even in the brave new world, sponsoring district basketball clubs is not a great business proposition for businesses.

I agree with the concept. The only way I think you could get such a person is if you owned the stadium and part of their role was to also oversee the stadium management.

Would you really want the person doing Aussie Hoops? At the end of the day you have to have seperation of responsibilities so every person is measured. I think a seperate person would need to be hands on in Aussie Hoops and that person is measured/answer by your basketball manager.

How do u think this position could be justified fulltime?

A partnership with BASA would be the start of something like this.

Or in the real world a realisation that BASA can't do it on their own...which probably leads to the partnership wish again.

There are a number of formal/informal partnerships with BASA around the game now...have a look at Forestville, Sturt and lately Southern.

Club based prosperity (that is not just chanelled into buying senior players) is linked to a full time official representing the Club interests first and all others second.

I think there is scope to justify a position for a committed person that returns numbers and the potential of funds to a Club.

Some great idea's here guys. The person involved would need to get involved in a hands on level to start with to generate enough income for the club to be able to maintain the position. Agreed that club self stadium management would be a bonus for not only this position to get off of the ground, but also to provide a better product to the clubs.

Then this person can take a large amount of the volunteer work of peoples hands in the clubs. Looking at Knox and Dandenong, they have multiple employee's. I am sure that they started with one hands on person, then increased as their associaiotns increased in size.

Big A,

Dandenong is what is at the back of my mind.

12 month contract that is performance based in part.

BASA cant do it on their own.

There will be further rationalisation of Clubs...basketball is expensive.

Regionalisim, direct links to Councils and recognition that Clubs have the control of their own destiny.

Clubs have a good understanding of their own areas and what buttons to continually punch...councils, local/federal members included.

I thankyou all for your feedback and invite any other suggestions...It is clearer in my mind now

Regionalisim is the key.

Give the local communities a club they can identify with in their area. Link in local competitions / Aussie Hoops with District clubs.

This would be a good proposition for local business.

Your (our) ideas are great yosemite. Up to the Club Presidents to drive ideas like this. Some clubs are obviously moving closer and closer to this: Full time management, taking control of Aussie Hoops and local community basketball competition and controlling stadiums. Perhaps youre correct Big A - in regards to area development manager money been given to the clubs but im not so sure.

Sammy,

The big key for some clubs is that they don't have a BASA owned home stadium. ie Norwood. Or that some clubs have larger existing venue's ie Southern than others ie North, but I am in agreement with you in principle.

The hardest part would be finding a sufficient number of people who could be a jack of all trades for all 10 current clubs to start. I guess you have the three current DO's (Schuler for Eastern, Lowe for South and Lange for Forrestville)but who from each other club is good enough to do the job. Maybe the DO's don't have the sufficient overall abilities in their current/previous clubs views.

Incog,

way to go...I really think that this is the difference with our Eastern State counterparts...there is a history in all States but we are unique here...not as many people as a start...same origins but we have always had to work harder in this State.

We all love the game and want to see all Clubs do well, but we have to be heading in the same direction.

There has been some bagging of the salary cap in this forum but it isnt a level playing field - Australia wide.

There has been some bagging of the Southern/Eastern crowd behaviour last weekend but there has been some most public castigation of that it is all healthy stuff...to talk about it.

I missed the sixers forum but this is the hottest site in SA Basketball and they are all listening/reading.

Lets all keep it up