Australia 86 - Japan 65

Talbot wins out in every category except blocks.
20 points
9 rebounds
4 assists
2 steals

Lavey performed well also with..
14 points
3 rebounds
4 assists
1 steal

When will the sick love obsession end?? BJ and the minutes spread... Sickening!

Maybe he/she was referring to burton?

Almost 23 minutes for 2 points, 2 rebounds and 1 steal.

Compare that to say penaluna...
13 mins, 9 points, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 steal.

Agree #9147, Penaluna over Burton in every way

So many options in the post positions but he continues to go to burton.

I mean tolo, Francis, Jackson, cambage, bishop, penaluna, hodges, batkovic.
Talent that can play both ends....

Lavey is delivering! she's also getting the opportunity to do so, if he ran the others the same amount of time they would probably be delivering more.

#9467 100% correct in what you are saying. If the other guards ran her time they would put up much better numbers I just cant understand why the coaching staff cant see this. Tessa over dribbled the ball again last night. She hit some beautiful 3's in her defense but her game is no where near the level it needs to be. She's a good kid, just too much exposure

Aussie`s win, get some minutes into young players giving a chance to see which ones will become the best supoort players come Rio - FANS STILL HATING.

Seems similar to what went on with the Socceroos with everyone complaining aabout the amount of players they gave a shot to. The result was a lot more depth.

We won, yeah it wasnt great competition but I enjoyed seeing some new players last night with the thought in the back of my mind that we have some high quality stars to come in down the track.

Exactly, they promoted her and she would have well and truely known when things were on. she chose to go and party at a festival. thats fine and it is her choice but you then have to know there will be consequences. At the same age would Jackson and taylor have done that?

As above the longer she fights this publically the more it will hurt her public image,

suits her public image just perfectly. her public image these days is socialite not athlete

and Lizs appearance at Splendour in the grass was so important they did not even give her a mention on the website or promotional page.

The Tall Ferns just lost to Taiwan's B Team 77-66 at the Williams Jones Cup:
http://2015wjc.basketball-tpe.org/files/902-1008-3524-10000.php

I'm pretty sure almost every WNBL team and perhaps the Gems would beat that squad in a series.

Its kind of the problem with the Opals. There is a lot of training and non competitive games until the real stuff happens, and even then they normally aren't challenged until after the group stages in the World Champs and Olympics.

Its also amazing that Jarry will have played more games in the Opals jersey then for her club teams over the past few years. A very rare accomplishment.

and Lizs appearance at Splendour in the grass was so important they did not even give her a mention on the website or promotional page.

Speaking of Jarry, how did she go last night?

Id hate to be a selector come next year...

Cambage, Jackson, Francis, tolo, bishop, batkovic, penaluna, burton vying for 5 spots?

Taylor, ohea, allen, Talbot, jarry, madgen, ebzery, kunek, blicavs, snell and maybe even griffin? vying for 4-5 spots?

Great position to be in. Better then putting people in just to make up numbers.

Snell can't still be in the mix

I'd take cole over lavey.... Imo.

I'd like to see...
Phillips/Mitchell/cole
Taylor/allen
Ohea/Talbot
Francis/penaluna/tolo
Cambage/Jackson

More than likely though....
Phillips/Mitchell/lavey
Taylor/allen
Jarry/ohea
Jackson/Francis/burton
Cambage/tolo

Hodges might still be in the mix?

Umm Mitchell...

Where's Penny Taylor? She's not playing anywhere right now.

She was at the ESPY's looking fab recently.

https://instagram.com/p/5YPP_IpWkm/?taken-by=sbird10

Didn't make quite the same amount of news as the Liz story did.

Yowza!

I take it attending the ESPYs (when you aren't a nominee mind) is less egregious of an absence than playing concert host (whatever that means). Joyce has his standards.

You know who the man is in that relationship.....












Brondello...

Oh get off it Annoy. She sprained her ankle in February and hasn't played a game of 5 on 5 since Dandy's latest magnificent meltdown. If she can't right an ankle sprain in 5 months she may as well hang it up. She doesn't want to suit up right now, it is what it is. They'll both be back for the Olympics.

That's Diana Taurasi?? She looks............different.

^^ I think Cole is injured right now too but could be wrong.

The obvious differences are that:
a) Taylor made it known months ago that she was not participating in the qualifiers or the lead ups
b) Taylor never committed to being at that camp
c) Taylor never expected to play vs Japan or NZ
d) Taylor isn't sooking about missing out, or posturing ridiculously with lawyers

But other than that, yes, the Taylor comparison is totally on the money and a tremendous one to bring up in Liz's defence.
Pathetic attempt #669

Cole is near the end or close to the end of her rehab I believe.

Australia 85 - Japan 64

Talbot again with 19p, 6r, 2a. 20 mins.
Jarry 13p, 5r, 1a. 17 mins.
Lavey 10p, 2r, 4a. 22mins.
Burton 0p, 5r, 0a. 26 mins. Enough is enough?

Every box score in the last year?

give Olivia thompson a chance...

If you want to prepare opals for the future.
Take smith, froling or even magbegor.

Burton is 26 now. Francis, bishop, tolo, penaluna, Blicavs(sf mainly)?are all the same age or close to.
She won't get a chance...

The next pf crop is Thompson, mijovic, smith, froling, magbegor. Focus on them...

What is happening to Thompson at SEABL this year? Hasn't been dominant at all?

Spot on Dunkin Dan

You don't think smith would out perform burton already?

Smith is a long way off, how did she go against Russia?

Not good...against Russia.
All star 5 though...

I haven't had a chance to watch these 2 games although Lavey has done well in the boxscore.

It looks like if she can stroke the 3 that she is hard to guard with her speed.

Trouble with the box score is lavey, burton and Talbot are getting twice the minutes.

I'd like to see Blicavs, madgen and penaluna get full game.
Ebzery and kunek more minutes also.

Only decent competition was against Russia and not many stood up.

Talbot should go to rio.
Jarry or ohea as the other sf?

I pick ohea...

Burton was terrible and I mean terrible. Lavey was really good. Talbot best player on floor by a mile.

O'Hea over 5 wnba seasons is the 5th best shooter in the history of the league. http://www.basketball-reference.com/wnba/leaders/fg3_pct_career.html (so not sure if I would call that struggling majorly)

If she wasn't able to defend then she wouldn't play. Its the first thing a coach will look at. Talbot is very good, although beating up on a Japanese team and playing against the best in the world every night is a different story.

For rio though.. Who do you choose? (If griffin available)
Talbot/ohea
Talbot/jarry
Talbot/griffin
Ohea/jarry
Ohea/griffin
Jarry/griffin

Blicavs and kunek are 2 other sf's that will come into frame after rio.

You'd have to put Allen in that mix as well. I'd say Talbot is in and you have Allen as well, and Taylor.

It would be a struggle for O'Hea and Griffin who haven't been involved to date.

theyll be a lot of spots open soon...
Can't see Jackson, Taylor, batkovic, hodges, Phillips, Mitchell, snell playing for opals much longer..

We don't have An abundance of good quality, experienced pg's coming through.
Cole, lavey, Clydesdale, Wallace and panousis look like the next crop.

Still have Francis, tolo, bishop, cambage, penaluna, burton, bunton, mijovic to choose from in the bigs department. All of which are aged between 21 and 26. Still some mileage on these girls.

Talbot, Blicavs, jarry, kunek and garbin maybe will all be after that sf spot.
Ebzery, madgen, cumming, Garrick and a few others after the sg spot.

Nah allen will play behind Taylor as a sg like at the world champs.

We need an sg or sf who can play the 1 if necessary so we don't have to take 3 pg's.

Wallace is the only descent 1-2 coming through. Clydesdale maybe in the future if she can shoot better from the perimeter.
Madgen, ebzery can play 1.. But not very well atm.

Wallace may have been OK against those weaker teams at Un19s but she struggled against Russia big time and Spains guards outplayed her, Panousis has a very limited game, neither are ready for the next leap and you wouldn't even be considering them just yet if you were a coach with any sense.
In a few more years maybe, but then their will be others coming through who will possibly overtake them then.
Focus on what's ready now as by the time these ones are coming through their will be a different coach who will look at players in a different light yet again.

Who would over take them out of... (College to u16)
Pirini, Nakkasoglu, Mckenzie, stirton, wehrung, trinder, antoniadou, Deakin sharpe, delcastegne, Yaegar, rocci, Molloy, Cubillo, Shelley, white, heal?

Who else?

See my best starting 5 is Mitchell, Phillips, Taylor, Francis and Liz.

Allen, Tolo, Talbot, and up for grabs for the rest.

Phillips
Taylor
Talbot
Francis
Cambage

Mitchell the better form but can't play defence.

Saying that someone that plays 20+ minutes a game in the Wnba can't play defense is incorrect as it just doesn't happen.

The biggest drawcard in the league Shoni can't get minutes due to lack of defense.

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re: Opals-Japan Series


Who would over take them out of... (College to u16)
Pirini, Nakkasoglu, Mckenzie, stirton, wehrung, trinder, antoniadou, Deakin sharpe, delcastegne, Yaegar, rocci, Molloy, Cubillo, Shelley, white, heal?

Who else?

four years is a long time so could be a few of those but my bets for now would be Wherung, Antoniadou, Rocci, Shelley and Heal out of that list would be strong contenders, Wherung and Antoniadou the strongest.But as I said four years is a long time and being realistic thats how long its going to be before they will really be looking at having a big impact in a national team.
With Lavey, Ebzery, Cole,Garrick and Clydsdale all still young enough to keep going in the 1/2 spots for another several years, baring injury taking them out of contention if Joyce is still coaching then this lot are there

Don't ignore the likes of Casey Samuels,or Alex Wilson when discussing players of the future.

it was only PG/SG that was mentioned but yes your absolutely right, so many good players out there that perhaps have yet to peak and some who have peaked and will not continue to develop and some are yet to be recognised by current coaching staff for what ever reason. 4 years is a long time in basketball anything can happen so to speculate now who will definitely be their then is silly.

silly is an understatement, this thread has become ludicrous and doesn't even display a base understanding of currently available talent let alone have any hope of forming a view on how players will develop.

Lost against Japan...
76-75

Fire Joyce in the morning. He's had his chance:-)

And the centre spot.

By giving them more minutes to accumulate stats makes them look like better players at first glance when infact they play 2/3 less minutes.

1 rebound for a centre in 26 mins against a team who's centre is what 6'1?

Average height of japans squad is 5'9.

"he uses one player 29 mins in the pg spot..."

LOVE IS BLIND

seriously, this is getting a bit worrying now

6'5 batkovic (didn't play)
6'4 burton
6'4 penaluna
6'3 hodges
6'3 Blicavs
6'2 kunek
6'2 Talbot
5'11 madgen
5'11 snell
5'10 ebzery
5'10 Garrick
5'10 Clydesdale
5'7 Wilson
5'7 lavey

Japan move the ball well and they shoot well.
But they shot worse than us overall...
And they had the same rebound count as us? How?

His just making up for the time she didn't get in the wnbl as the 3rd string pg?

Don't get me wrong ... Shes a great player but maybe a few years off a full time opals spot....

Throw madgen, ebzery at the one for a while and see what they can do.
Cole should definateley replace lavey in the short term.

Rio is a huge worry right now!!

really with Lavey at the helm because that's how its going to be.

anyone listen to Joyces interview with Basketball Australia.....he goes on about how he has 14 players and he has to rotate them all to give them minutes so they can show what they can do, and how it would have been easier if he only had say 9 to give good minutes"
He obviously doesn't look at stats lol

Listen Einstein..People know it is development. what they don't know why Lavey? an ordinary payer by all accounts

Would people agree that this is our best possible side?

Phillips/Mitchell/cole
Taylor/allen
Ohea/Talbot
Francis/tolo/penaluna
Cambage/Jackson

Maybe bishop for penaluna but she hasn't showed much so far in the wnba.
And penaluna adds a bit more length, height, blocks and better shooter.

Look into the BA's URL below

http://www.basketball.net.au/opals-complete-sweep-japan-oceania-championship-warm-series/

a "Wishful Linking" ? LOL

Haha! well spotted

Can't blame them much..Australia loosing to Japan in Australia wasn't a possibility until now

Australia and Spain have equal talent.
Canada will be right up their to.

Silver or bronze. Usa to win gold.

Cambage denied reinstatement.