RobT
Two months ago

Where To, Jack McVeigh?

Jack McVeigh and JJ's have agreed to part.

Where to, Jack?

USA seems to be a no-go. Is it Europe, Asia or can he now play elsewhere in the NBL?

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Baller  
Two months ago

I would say his either going to Japan or coming back to the nbl he wouldn't have needed a release to play in Europe most players have nba and Europe release clause’s already in there contracts the only nbl team that could afford him would be Perth

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Dorito  
Two months ago

Cairns definitely have space on their roster and would be in huge need of someone they could marquee, and assumably the money to spend if they now have private ownership? But who really knows they are the mystery team of NBL 26.. and that's if he's eying off a return to the NBL?

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Scout  
Two months ago

Word down here (Tassy) is that Brisbane are the team rumoured to be where he is ending up

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Kruger  
Two months ago

Welcome to the Hawks Jack

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LaPark  
Two months ago

Taipans and Hawks are the 2 in the running according to Olgun.

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KL  
Two months ago

Yes, he said the other day in a Boomers interview that "this is where I belong" which seemed out of context. So, I have been thinking Brisbane as well.

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KL  
Two months ago

The club statement also said:

"While the JackJumpers are disappointed Jack will not be returning to the club in the foreseeable future, the club would not unreasonably withhold a release."

The “forseeable future” bit seems a bit odd if he is going to another NBL Club.

So, maybe it is Japan as Baller said.

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RobT  
Two months ago

Perfect fit for Brisbane, Scout. Something else to like about Tassie! Not just because he's Jack McVeigh, a fabulous player, but also for how he would balance out this team. I have been spitting chips this off-season with the seeming hapless decisions made by the Bullets in their roster and coaching. Then suddenly, lately, they put some names together and now have a better-than-reasonable roster for the up-coming season.

Adding McVeigh (as the PF obviously), would allow Prather to go back to the SF, apparently his preferred position.
The roster and depth chart would be;

PG. Jaylen Adams/Mitch Norton/Savage/Devers
SG. Javon Freedom-Liberty/Sam MacDaniel/Taine Murray
SF. Casey Prather/Alex Ducas
PF. Jack McVeigh/Tohi Smith-Milner
C. Tyrell Harrison/Jacob Holt/Bradtke

Back on board!

Mind you, everyone could make a case for how Jack McVeigh could make their team a genuine ch'ip prospect. Sorta as big a deal as Cotton, I'd say. Probably more important, in the current context, as teams are going for their final pieces now.

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

Hawks

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KL  
Two months ago

Pleb intimating an announcement from an NBL Club is imminent.

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Screeningnick  
Two months ago

How does this work exactly?

Are Hawks offering him more than his original contract with the Jackies or something? Strange all around.

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KL  
Two months ago

Think this is one of Plebs cryptic clues:

"Have tea sit back, let's party".

Maybe the 2nd card to fall.

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

"How does this work exactly?"

McVeigh has decided he wants to play in the NBL this season and the JJ's having spent most of their money likely can't satisfy him financially so he's asked the JJ's to relinquish their NBL rights to him, he had 2 years remaining on his contract, so he can sign with another NBL team.

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Dunkman  
Two months ago

I agree Zodiac, he really was an average player when he went to JJs, Roth and the team turned him around to get where he is and it screwed their last season up. His repayment is F you guys I'm out of here even though he’s under contract. Yes I know players have to make money while the sun shines but you would think he’s pretty well off in that department.
Also while I can understand that the nbl needs more openness, by joining Illawarra he’s certainly not rewarding LK as they are the instigators of the court cases. Just my opinion as an older person when loyalty meant something.

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

Not interested in your continued downplaying of McVeigh's time in Adelaide, the signs were there and he was already a better than average player.

w/ Adelaide

20-21 - 18.9m, 9.4p, 3.3r, 1a, 47.8% FG (42.5% 3p)

w/ Tassie

21-22 - 26.2m, 12.2p, 4.8r, 0.8a, 45.8% (37.3% 3p)

Yeah really "turned him around".

Re: leaving Tassie, I doubt McVeigh would be "pretty well off" financially. His initial 3 year contract at the Sixers was straight out of college and would've been relatively cheap for the security of 3 years.

At Tassie he was a pretty good player in his first two years (12.2p & 14.8p) but no superstar. In his last year there he averaged 17.3p and that renegotiated deal might've been his only year on superstar-level money. Last year in the NBA as two-way player he was on $580k USD. He wouldn't have made enough yet in his career to be "pretty well off" and at 29 now he's got to try and prioritise the financials in the second half of his career.

That's why he prioritised the NBA attempt over coming back to the JJ's and keep in mind they could've held a spot open for him in the likely event he missed out on an NBA contract but they chose to sign Bannan early instead, understandably.

He spent 3 years at the JJ's and 3 years before that at the 36ers, you weren't whinging about his lack of loyalty when he left Adelaide, we were the team that gave him his shot in the NBL and developed him. You being shitty at McVeigh now is a pretty ordinary take.

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Viewbank116  
Two months ago

"I agree Zodiac, he really was an average player when he went to JJs, Roth and the team turned him around to get where he is and it screwed their last season up. His repayment is F you guys I'm out of here even though he's under contract. Yes I know players have to make money while the sun shines but you would think he’s pretty well off in that department"
While you are not wrong at all here, the players do have a very limited window in which to make very good money and need to take it when they get offered. Also may have been a case of hard to see his fit with the JJ's and their current roster.

While I am sure Roth has not guaranteed anyone a spot in the starting five it may have been hard for Jack to imagine a lineup that includes him and sends Bannan(with Jack at the four) or one of the new imports(with Jack at SF) to the bench.
Jack provided as much for the club as the club did for him and he will be fondly remembered as the years roll on regardless of who he plays for. Without him we most likely have no title and for that he deserves to take his chances elsewhere. Maybe one day he will return to the nest wearing Jack Jumpers across his chest again but for now at least we will give him the applause he deserves. Good luck to him

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Baller  
Two months ago

The last contract he signed in Tasmania was for around 600k a season if he came back unless he renegotiated the deal that's what he would have been playing for his value has obviously gone up since his nba and boomer performances I know he has been offered substantially more in Japan so if he plays in the nbl it will be for a good contract

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Dunkman  
Two months ago

Everyone to their own opinions, but McVeigh was a defensive liability till JJs got hold of him, JJs taught him how to be good on D, individual and team.

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

Ha you used to say JJ's taught him how to be a good 3pt shooter until I pointed out his superior 3pt% at the Sixers. Just face it you arrived at a conclusion you couldn't defend. He wasn't a below average player in 2021 you were incorrect the first time you said it and everytime you've kept saying it since.

Once again I don't remember you whinging about McVeigh's lack of loyalty to the Sixers when he left for the JJ's. It was understandable why he left to us Sixers fans just like it would be understanble to JJ's fans why he's gone now too.

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word14  
Two months ago

McVeigh also refused to play under Scott Roth again, at least according to what some credible people have told me

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Viewbank116  
Two months ago

"McVeigh also refused to play under Scott Roth again, at least according to what some credible people have told me"

this does not seem like an image of two people who do not get along very well does it? I know they have just won the title in this moment but still!

https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/jackjumpers-head-coach-scott-roth-congratulates-jack-news-photo/1800256017

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

That wouldn't surprise me if true, I suspect there might be more to Doyle's departure too. A lot of the sheen Roth had built up around himself started to come off last season, his behaviour to that female journo, the constant whinging, the red phone crap etc.

Personally I never liked the personality cult he's tried to build at the JJ's, trying to make the whole club all about him. I remember when he threatened to quit and go back home after Year 1 unless they gave him a better contract than the one he signed 12 months earlier. Prick behaviour that.

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Viewbank116  
Two months ago

"That wouldn't surprise me if true, I suspect there might be more to Doyle's departure too. A lot of the sheen Roth had built up around himself started to come off last season, his behaviour to that female journo, the constant whinging, the red phone crap etc.

Personally I never liked the personality cult he's tried to build at the JJ's, trying to make the whole club all about him. I remember when he threatened to quit and go back home after Year 1 unless they gave him a better contract than the one he signed 12 months earlier. Prick behaviour that."

Doyle was purely money, he knows his career at a good level of play is on the backend and he wanted to make as much as he could at this stage. Fair play to him, gets to stay in a safe easy country and play for a great club making good money.

I don't think he has made the whole club about himself, he constantly talks about the asst. coaches and all the work they put in with the players, game plan and execution. Roth is often calling himself an average coach and lauds his staff. From what I heard at the time the renegotiation by all accounts was always on the cards if the JJ's performed above expectations in year 1, sort of a let's see how you do type of thing and then we can talk $$$.

The red phone thing is an inside joke but a very real thing, the amount of things above and beyond the JJ's have had to do(in the community etc.) because they were owned by the league is crazy. Yes this is a very real part of being a start up but a lot of this was handled entirely by Roth that first year as the "face" of the club and I believe probably wore him down. Yet any little mis-step, misspoken word etc was heavily frowned up internally by the league and thus Roth would be copping the brunt of LK's concerns.

Roth can certainly be a bit blunt and grumpy at times and yes the female journo incident was not a good look at the time but he apologised and she said no issues and moved on so we should too. We can't be a society that continually looks back on a bit of grumpiness (after an extended pre-season) and conclude that tells us everything about a persons makeup.
We are a funny people, happy to put people on a pedestal quickly but then chop them down just as quick

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

That might be true with Doyle but keep in mind he only signed a 1 year deal with Melb. How much of a discrepancy could there be on just a 1 year deal when Doyle and his family were said to be quite settled in Tassie? It's not like it was a 3 year deal where there might be a big difference between the two offers. He's only 31 too not 36 or something, he's still got more than a few years ahead of him.

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word14  
Two months ago

Zodiac, I think you could be close to on the money.

For what it's worth the same source who told me McVeigh refuses to play for Roth told me Roth and Doyle's relationship had seriously deteriorated, can't help thinking it was a least a small factor in his choice to head to MU

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KL  
Two months ago

The JJs have posted on their socials that emphasis should be placed on family considerations re Jacks decision. There are posts elsewhere that go further into those family considerations and are what I dare say the vast majority of people would find entirely understandable.

Absolutely nothing to do with Roth and the disparaging comments being made on here are absolute garbage.

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Dunkman  
Two months ago

Roth has done an absolute amazing job at JJs, compare there performances compared to SEM as new clubs, it's chalk and cheese. Their first side looked like it would not win a game and made GF. Short memories by some and I don’t care if he’s upset that apple cart along the way, results are what count and imo he made McVeigh into the player he is .

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Viewbank116  
Two months ago

"That might be true with Doyle but keep in mind he only signed a 1 year deal with Melb. How much of a discrepancy could there be on just a 1 year deal when Doyle and his family were said to be quite settled in Tassie? It's not like it was a 3 year deal where there might be a big difference between the two offers. He's only 31 too not 36 or something, he's still got more than a few years ahead of him."

If it was $50k-$100k more then certainly worth the move at this stage of his career, he had fallen away a bit last season and a half or so(even though he had to carry a fair whack of the load himself last season specifically) so I think he understands where he is at career wise and with the back court weapons MU already have to help ease his load plus the extra $$$ it added up to a worthwhile change.

How many years would he have left in the NBL on very good money if he averages 14pts per game on 37% fg and 32% from 3pfg? 1-2years at most I would think, so he needed to make it happen money wise while he can.

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word14  
Two months ago

'Absolutely nothing to do with Roth and the disparaging comments being made on here are absolute garbage.'

If you say so KL, you believe what you like, and I'll believe my sources, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

You honestly think Doyle who would be on relatively big money already would relocate his family to a new city for $50k? Come on. The difference would probably need to be $200k+ to risk it.

As word14 has alluded to I think there might've been something else at play, he likely didn't leave for the money.

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GordonG  
Two months ago

"The Kenfrost Homes Cairns Taipans announce forward Jack McVeigh as their first new signing for the upcoming 2025-26 season."

That'll do nicely...

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Johnson14  
Two months ago

McVeigh going to Cairns and Jonah Bolton to the Hawks.

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Johnson14  
Two months ago

Jonah Bolden

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KET  
Two months ago

This is absolutely fantastic news.

This season is shaping to be a cracker!

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MaxM  
Two months ago

Can't help but be happy for Cairns! So good to see McVeigh back in the league.

His agency posted on Instagram saying "2 million for 2 years" - it's so good for the league if Cairns become a higher spending team.

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RobT  
Two months ago

Great get for Cairns and the NBL, sad for my Bullets.

Can really see McVeigh and Forde getting on like the prov house on fire.

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RobT  
Two months ago

Great get for Cairns and the NBL, sad for my Bullets.

Can really see McVeigh and Forde getting on like the prov house on fire.

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AngusH  
Two months ago

Happy for Cairns. Huge signing and I don't think he'll have much trouble playing up to that contract.

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Dunkman  
Two months ago

Cairns on the money now, be interesting who they put around him. Is he going to play the 3or 4, possibly both. Good signing.

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Kruger  
Two months ago

Hawks get the booby prize

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Dunkman  
Two months ago

Agree, Kruger, third year back so could improve but first two underwhelming.

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LV  
Two months ago

Conflicting thoughts on this.

Huge for Cairns. Not an exaggeration to say this is their biggest signing ever.

When have Cairns ever had a marquee Aussie before? Young version of Nate Jawai is perhaps the only comparable player in 27 years

Really looking forward seeing how McVeigh goes under Forde, with an opportunity to be the man.

On the other hand, this season will be tough viewing for JJ's fans. Three foundation players and championship players elsewhere- Doyle, Krslovic and now McVeigh. Would’ve loved to see McVeigh return and the JJ’s get their championship band back together.

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Bullets  
Two months ago

Guess you could count Alex Loughton and further back Martin Cattalini as 'marquee' Australians playing for Cairns.

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

Cattalini's probably the best player that ever played for the Taipans. McVeigh's a good player too.

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LV  
Two months ago

Yeah Cattalini was a lot like McVeigh too. Did play some great basketball for Cairns. Made an All-NBL 1st and real chance McVeigh does likewise.

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