Full Promotion/Relegation, including Divisions 1 and 2
Allowing clubs to have two Division 1 or 2 teams.

This is long overdue in SA - in no world should we have a team in Div 1 losing by more than 50. If clubs are worried that "if we dont have a div 1 team no one will play for us" I argue if you have a div 1 team losing by 65 points, your best 2 players will leave and next season you will be losing by 80 points.

Div 2 having a shot clock is amazing and should remain. Make no sense having div 2 with no shot clock. I would love to see a world in which maybe Div 3 has a 30 second shot clock. Something to make those games look a bit closer to the higher levels.. when you see some games being 30 - 45 and div 2 is 50-60 it shows that teams are content running 1 minute long offences that do not resemble "proper" basketball.

personally BSA made comment that games at SBC would be so Div 1 and 2s from the same age group could be seen together. I think the program being able to see each other peform would be great. lower divs get this oppourunity but the D1 and 2s dont.

Full Promotion/Relegation, including Divisions 1 and 2
Allowing clubs to have two Division 1 or 2 teams.

100% agree but the democracy of the member clubs will never allow it - as the weaker clubs will lose players - only a few clubs will benefit and in fact get stronger.
Fact is move clubs if Div 1 or 2 is that important to you.




Changes to the timing of seasons, start dates, end dates.
Division 2 reverting to 1 hour timeslots.
Moving grades on to different days/nights.

No I'm happy with the season timings and the days and when the games are played.

Introduction of a structured 3X3 competition.

Not a fan but if enough interest is there.

Limiting the number of teams in the competition

Basketball snobbery IMO - maybe cap it at Div 10 - give the kids a go.

Limiting the number of teams from each club

As above

Limiting the clubs to the 10 "member" clubs OR encouraging further expansion, allowing other clubs to play Division 1 and 2.

No - we are struggling to maintain competitive levels with member clubs.

Moving Under 10s to Domestic Leagues (now with the AJDL announcement all 10 member clubs have access to a Domestic League)

Not too worried here either way.

Abolishing State Champs

No keep them

Moving State Champs

No it's selection for classics and U14 club champs

Restructuring State Champs

Would like it to include a 3rd division again (it's been done before) - as age grades have grown a lot since it's inception - i.e. they have 6 divisions and only 2 divisions for state champs that were initiated years ago when a way smaller amount of divisions existed. Gives the kids an opportunity.

For Div 1 &2 Move 12's to Saturday morning and play 14,16 and 18 in the old format- home and away. Div 1 team playing what would be there home games against opponents at opponents
home court is nuts

Restrict it to five team per club per age group with the balance becoming social comp. Helps fixture’s and refs.

Plan the season better so school holidays are not impacted. There is such a big break in season no need to play during school holidays.

Relegation. Watching some teams going down by 60+ consistently was not ideal

Full Promotion/Relegation, including Divisions 1 and 2
Allowing clubs to have two Division 1 or 2 teams.

*I thought there were some clubs with two Div 2 teams? Wasn't there a grand final during the state champs with two of the same club? I have U12 in my head.

Changes to the timing of seasons, start dates, end dates.
Division 2 reverting to 1 hour timeslots.

* I do like this idea, but it only works well if the teams aren’t being called for all fouls...or people chasing the ball.

Moving grades on to different days/nights.

* I like how this is in place for the U18 divisions, with some divisions playing on the Thursday night. Means some of the referees can play on Thursday and then referee on Friday.

Introduction of a structured 3X3 competition.
*No. please no.

Limiting the number of teams in the competition
*didn’t they do this when they told Modbury no?

Limiting the number of teams from each club
*depends on the club, doesn’t one club have 80 teams? But it was some of the smaller clubs which had success in the grand finals.

Limiting the clubs to the 10 "member" clubs OR encouraging further expansion, allowing other clubs to play Division 1 and 2.
*I have no opinion on this.

Moving Under 10s to Domestic Leagues (now with the AJDL announcement all 10 member clubs have access to a Domestic League)
*no, I like it where it is. U10’s have its place. U8’s are domestic and provide opportunities in domestic league.

Aboloshing State Champs
*no. I like state champs

Moving State Champs
*where to?

Restructuring State Champs
*u12 should not be playing at 9 pm on a Thursday. It feels unnatural.

If teams are getting massacred then they should be dropped, but who makes the decision? Some clubs stick by the old "If we don't have a div 1 team we won't attract players" which is mainly nonsense. I wonder if it's ever happened when a truely terrible team has gotten a number of decent div 2 or even div 3 players from another club just wanting the opportunity to play ones. It's a bit of a catch 22 because by themselves no-one wants to make the move but if kids know 4 or 5 other kids are thinking about it they might do it. Of course there's no such thing as poaching players, but maybe in some way that terrible team could legally be allowed to approach players at other clubs.
And for 2 teams in div 1 or 2, what would be the criteria, winning summer? Even if the 10 spots are already taken and no clear cut bottom team? And again, who makes the decision, some teams might be happy winning in div 2 rather than being in the bottom half of div 1.
And would like to see other clubs enter the league, but guidelines would need to be set. Modbury looked like they were doing a great job in the lower divisions. And back to the promotion topic, why shouldn't someone like the Magic be allowed to enter div 2 for example if they're doing a great job of developing their young kids only to lose them.
For maybe the younger age groups, having clubs like Central's and Southern play at a neutral venue like Wayville could solve a few headaches. Travelling from the Barossa to Morphett Vale for example and vice versa for more Southern locations to Gawler can be a nightmare. Would miss the peak hour traffic for 12s and avoid the 18s getting home at midnight.
Would also like to see the Div 1 and 2 play at same venue to allow coaches to watch the other team.
State champs is good as is. But maybe have a play in for div 3 teams. And try and avoid finals at Morphett Vale for 2 northern teams, like Norwood/North/Centrals. And maybe have it over 2 weekends, 12/14s then 16/18s. Could include div 3s there as well potentially. And could rural clubs be included then like Mt Gambier, Whyalla etc.
And could conferences be an idea for lower grades, again saving on travel when some are really domestic teams that want to play district.
And tongue in cheek, ban parents apart from dropping off and picking up, the main problem in junior sports.

any new club will erode a member club - we've seen that previously.
Just because you do well in Div 4 doesn't mean you're a Div 1 team.

Also these other clubs may get a "superteam" of friends one year or two -bit the overall strength and ability to maintain a decade of those results ?

When all clubs are full and players queuing to get district games and all divisions full - yes then let's allow a new club.

They will need to display organisation and financial stability.

But we are way off that level.

Shot clock in SA has always been a confusing one. As far as I know all grades have a shot clock, but the referees are responsible for it if there isn't an electronic one in use. This would be a great one to start with changing.

Div 2 electronic shot clocks should certainly remain and I agree maybe even introduced to Div 3. To me, and is the case in Melbourne, if there isn't an electronic shot clock then it should exist. Expecting young inexperienced Saturday morning referees to also manage a shot clock is completely unfair, makes them even more of a target for abuse and doesn't work.

To clarify I was suggesting that Div 2 games go back to untimed, 10min quarters, clock stops for time outs last 3mins, as it had been for quite a while before a recent change to fulltimed rules of Div 1 games.

Interesting about people being pro promotion/relegation but suggesting moving 12s to create a more home/away structure. pro/rel removes the home/away structure of old. A number of clubs could have 12-16 div 1 teams so there would have to be a new approach to managing home and away with the small inferior venues most SA clubs are based at.

Interested if anyone has topics I might not have raised too. The parent issue is a worthwhile topic. Some venues have tried to move spectators away from directly on sidelines, I know one Melbourne Club even introuduced a round where spectators couldn't talk, just clap.

Saturday morning parents - a high % can't manage basic bench duties - a shot clock would be mayhem.
Same with referees - a lot learning still a lot to learn of basic rules - let alone a 13yo trying to manage a 40 yos on the sideline.

can't see how we could keep shot clocks but have untimed games again ?

That would be chaos and other set of conditions for volunteers to master.

I think div 2 games being fully timed is the best thing BSA has done in a long time.

Im fine for modified rules for lower age groups and lower skill level to aclimatise to the sport and the rules. U10s and U12s no shot clock is fine.
U14s can be a grey area...
Once we are looking at U16s and 18s shot clock should be in atleast for Div 1 and 2.

By U18s, YL and seniors we should be looking at shot clocks across all grades.
These people arent having to adjust to the sport anymore.

+, was suggesting meeting certain requirements, not just a hastily formed club.
My prime example was Modbury that had a few teams in lower grades a few years back. Just following them on social media they seem to have a fairly good structure mainly geared at a social league, but if they can form a few rep teams per age group, good on them. I mean Magic were in direct competition with Woodville and West but seem to be heading more North now. To gain entry to div 1 or 2 competitions they should be allowed to demonstrate consistent high finishes in div 3. If some of the member clubs, namely Woodville and Central's can't get their act together in the girls, why can't Magic and Modbury take their spots? Players don't seem to want to go there anyway, prefering to play lower divs at somewhere like West or North. And if a bunch of kids want to form a super team at one of them, what's stopping them from going to another club that struggles in that age group?
Another is the Eastside Rams that have grown exponentially the last few years.
Let these new clubs start in lower grades, provide a good membership base and strategy for the future. I know Modbury are just a social team now limited to a few Northeastern competitions, but would think they'd have more girls playing for them than a few district clubs. Most wouldn't want the burden of travel and extra expenses, but should be given a chance.

Modbury seems to have exploded in popularity. Seem to be in every tournament / carnival in SA when they're on and even sent a team to Nunawading.

Basketball itself has become more popular in the past year or so, and there’s more interest in high school students. Particularly eastern suburbs of Adelaide. You don’t see it as much in the northern suburbs.

Could you bring the lower divisions to a Wednesday night? Spread it out more? Or would that create more issues with stadiums?

Personally I think we should cap the number of district divisions and then every club run its own dometic comp (If it so chooses).

BSA obviously struggles for referee representation and with the growth of player participation more games would just stretch this resource.

4 divs 5 divs cap for each age group, from there its a domestic comp.

Not only is the referee resource a drain, the coaching resource is being drained recently. A JDO of a club i know claimed that their club only has 10 coaches apply for coaching positions at their club this upcoming season.
If your clubs boys program has 5 U18s, 5 U16s, 5 U14s, 5 U12s thats 20 coaches already, let alone if your club can fill 3 divs for each girls age group.

Everyone wants a Div 6 team to occur (inlcuding Parents) but when a parent has to step up and coach "oh this is bulsh*t, how can the club not get coaches, rah rah rah".

Sort answer is there are no coaches for even div 3 teams, let alone div 6/7/8.

As a state we dont have the resources for coaches or umpires to handle the growth that has been seen in the past 5 years

Ultimately, the model of relying on volunteer coaches is not sustainable. Pay coaches to coach,or the "brain drain" will continue. Parents infiltrating the upper echelons of club management have caused many good coaches to walk away..