EssenX
A few hours ago

Is this the worst NBL season in recent memory?

Other than Melbourne, who are playing at a high level, most of the teams are underwhelming if not atrocious. Some of the imports, despite massive hype, have struggled to deliver and would probably struggle in NBL1 or NZ NBL too. As a result, the gameplay has not been as competitive and exciting as I thought it would be.

Adelaide: acceptable, but Cotton making them look way better than they are.

Brisbane: acceptable and showing some promising signs.

Cairns: shambles.

Hawks: shambles.

NZ: total shambles, more airballs than my social league team.

Perth: shambles.

SEM: shambles.

Sydney: Goorjian was past it, now he's out of his depth, and has made the team a shambles.

Tassie: injury inflicted, but a on court shambles nonetheless.

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word14  
A few hours ago

To simply answer the question- yes

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orbit  
A few hours ago

Have to agree, i once looked fwd to coming home & seeing the line ups & revolving my night around it. All blow outs & scrappy play. Hopefully it improves!

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
A few hours ago

I am going to have to agree. A lot of terrible teams and teams I cant be bothered watching, for whatever reason gameplay feels less dynamic. Imports have been underwhelming. A few teams battling with injury (Illawarra, Brisbane) but others like Cairns, NZ, Perth don't really have an excuse. I skipped yesterdays games and I usually dont start skipping games until much later in the season.

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Dunkman  
A few hours ago

It's been ok, but the blow outs have been very annoying, some of the imports certainly have been average and some locals as well have not lived up to expectations. Hard to judge the sides with massive injury worries. Cotton the only million dollar man that has lived up to expectations, jla been ok, Cooks and McVeigh trying had but well short of their wage packets, others also well short of the mark as well.

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KET  
A few hours ago

I think it's an overreaction for now.

Melbourne are clearly above the rest.

Most sides otherwise have import slots to fill or have costly injuries, so there’s a bit of a clunky start to the season I suppose.

There’s more talent than ever IMO, but like AFL, if a team is slightly off, it’ll cost dearly.

This is especially exacerbated with the NBA style all-or-nothing three point shooting strategy. It becomes a slot machine approach, sometimes a team will kill it with their percentage and sometimes a team will be atrocious with their threes.

Brisbane shot 46.2% on 26 attempts from 3 against Perth
SEM shot 25.8% on 31 attempts from 3 against Adelaide

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Zodiac  
A few hours ago

Yeah I agree and it's killing my interest in the NBL. Every year as the style of play gets closer to the unwatchable NBA glorified scrimmage crap I struggle to get invested in the new NBL season.

But this season with the numerous bad/mediocre teams in a small 10 team league and all the constant blowouts I'm finding myself not even bothering to watch some games despite now having Disney+. Tonight's SEM vs Hawks game, not interested, I don't care who wins or loses, won't even watch the replay.

I used to watch at least the first 20 mins or so of Overtime each week too but last week didn't watch at all. I'm not interested in being yelled at by Von Hofe or listening to Hooley tell me how great everything is as the joint burns in the background, Chemical Ali style.

The style of play moving closer to the NBA nonsense needs to be looked at as dors the standard and calibre of players. The NBL likes to bang on about expansion but there are too many crap players still making rosters or even getting back into the NBL. The Bullets are full of them Jack Purchase, Callum Dalton, Tohi Smith-Milner with an obvious gut unable to bend over at one point last night. It's not good.

I mean are Melbourne United the worst 6-0 team we've ever seen? Full credit to Vickerman getting off to a great start with this motley bunch and no Goulding or Ili for large parts of it, but what is this saying about the standard of the NBL? This is an average United team. Delany's a dud, Walker and Edwards are mediocre imports plus the absences of Goulding & Ili losing Jack White and Delly in the offseason and they're 6-0? FMD. It's not like Doyle's dominating either.

One thing I do know is the NBL bobbleheads really need to ease up on the spin, I know it's not aimed at long time fans, but still the commentary of a lot of games is unlistenable with all the fake yelling and screaming from Heverin and that other guy who does the QLD games. It's so annoying.

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Dunkman  
A few hours ago

As Zodiac said elsewhere, the schedule for home and away games has been an abomination, some teams hardly left home court and others hardly there. Play like the older days, if going north play both qld teams on same weekend, same Perth, Adelaide etc. It is good having basketball Wednesday to Sunday though and the extra season game is better as well. Just get smarter with the schedule.

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Crackers65  
A few hours ago

The overall standard is definitely down, which is disappointing for the second best league in the world. Pre season teams were hyping up players, who aren't really that good. Some teams haven’t nailed their imports
and I still cannot believe how many duds still come here. Some GMs and coaches have no idea about roster construction. Yes this season has started off as the worst in recent history.

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O&B  
A few hours ago

I would argue this is a result of a couple of major issues that have been years even decades in the making.

1) The NBL itself has no identity.

While those in charge (LK) seem to be pushing the NBA-lite model, reality is that it's horrible for the on court product. No one loves watching an NBA game for the x and os from start to finish. It's a highlight making machine built on the 0.01% of the population's most athletic men in the world.

Most clubs under private ownership become play toys for the rich. They think a club can be run like they run their corrupt businesses and it can't. Sure you'll have your short term and die hard members but you won't engage the wider basketball community that way. You won't build an identity, a brand, a connection with the community. You'll attract the non-fan to a game or two because its entertainment but price and product will ensure they don't come back.

Coaches, well what a shitshow we have in 2025/26, the over-rated, NBA CV boys club stooges, the way past their prime and the arrogant victims. Excluding Vickerman (who sooks way too much himself) the rest don't come across as good leaders, or in some cases good people.

Coaches and players think they're in the world's 2nd best basketball league and top tier sport in Australia. Neither are true. They also think they're the most educated and important person in the building. 0 from 2.

Refereeing like coaching is worse again even then recent years. The man at the top has no skills to be in that role as a leader of adults, or visionary of the style of the game. Self important, arrogant, bully but also puppet for the NBL when certain teams/clubs need protecting or help for the NBL $$$$.
The two American's are being paid to be available 24/7 but both are below standard and too arrogant to change, the 3 veterans appear to be going through the motions with little respect for the game or players and little interest while the majority of the rest are way out of their depth. None of this is the fault of the referees themselves, its the NBL and BA at fault here.

and this takes us to major point number:
2) Basketball Australia and the State Associations. (MAYBE excluding Queensland right now)
Can anyone truly point out an employee in either the National or State bodies is good at what they do? Hard working, no doubt. Over worked, sure. But educated, and best person for the role? No one. Is anyone making a real change for the better of the game. No.

The sport lacks the visionary leaders of the 80s and early 90s. Those that did it for the game not the tiny pay-packet or title. At all levels. While participation has skyrocketed the organisations don't have the money or talent to turn this into improvements to the game. Look at Europe as an example of what can be achieved.
State bodies are being run for short term profit (cutting costs/resources to bare minimums) not growth and improvement of the game. Refereeing is grossly under funded and producing less and less quality as a result. Coaching stocks similarly headed the same direction, down.

The NBL and Basketball Australia (along with the States) have no plan. No collective vision for the purpose of the NBL, WNBL, NBL1, Representative competitions, district leagues, development programs, aussie hoops, sporting schools, Kmart Fun Zone blah blah blah

Just look at the WNBL hype (written by primary school interns) vs reality compared to the WNBL of the 90s as another example this weekend.

It's all short term and self serving. And as fans of the sport and the game itself, we're left to sit by and suffer the product being produced.

Trash.

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JeffBrown1997  
A few hours ago

Stu Lash signing is the thing that has cheapened the league as far as I'm concerned.

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Hooping  
Within the hour

If it was head to head broadcasting. I would watch the WNBL* over NBL. High quality athletes, commentators dont cr$p on about rubbish.

* as long as the WNBL has decent stadium and broadcast quality production and lighting - past broadcasting from Geelong has been very poor.

Agree with the Lash comment, just made a joke of the coaching standards and says that Australian coaches are not good enough.

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Perthworld  
Within the hour

Yes.

The NBL is now well resourced yet money can't buy you substance.

Trying to be like the NBA isn't the answer - we may have to wait until LK sells up before this misdirection is corrected.

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Luuuc  
Today

It's a yes from me as well - for now (it's still early days).

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TheTruth  
Within the hour

I still enjoy the league. Nail some imports and it turns around.

The Lash signing I hate though, it's not Australian coaches it makes a mockery of it's coaches all around the world everywhere. It treats a NBL coaching role as a entry level job.

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